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Old 31-01-2008, 12:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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New formula for ERP charges
By Goh Chin Lian



Under the new formula, ERP charges will kick in when, in line with international practice, just over 15 per cent of vehicles cannot go at what traffic engineers consider the best possible speed. -- PHOTO: ST FILE

TO GIVE motorists a smoother ride and better manage traffic congestion, the Electronic Road Pricing (ERP) charges will be based on a new formula, which will kick in earlier when traffic speeds fall below the optimal range.

The base rate will also go up to $2, from the current $1, and each subsequent jump will be $1, instead of 50 cents now.

These changes announced by Transport Minister Raymond Lim on Wednesday, along with the addition of 16 ERP gantries, are aimed at easing congestion in the city area, as well as on major roads island-wide.

Not only are more vehicles on the roads, but motorists are also earning more these days compared to 10 years ago when Singapore introduced its world-first system of managing traffic by charging for road usage.

Current charges are just not hitting motorists' pockets hard enough to keep enough of them away.

The result: frequent increases to ERP rates to keep traffic flowing - nine in 2006 and 25 last year. The year-long land transport review figured enough was enough.

Under the new formula, ERP charges will kick in when, in line with international practice, just over 15 per cent of vehicles cannot go at what traffic engineers consider the best possible speed.

The current threshold speeds, set 10 years ago, are 45 kph on expressways and 20 kph on major roads.

But motorists still find themselves getting caught in slow traffic, and even experiencing 'stop-start' conditions, despite fine weather, and with no accident in sight, said Mr Lim.

The current threshold speeds are closed to the point where traffic flow can deteriorate rapidly to what traffic engineers call the 'unstable zone', leading to 'stop-start' traffic flow.

'This is undesirable and we need to create a buffer to ensure better traffic conditions,' said the minister.

To address this, the Land Transport Authority (LTA) will no longer use average travelling speeds to determine ERP rate changes.

Instead, it will use the speed taken at the 85 percentile level, which will assure motorists of smooth travel on ERP-priced roads at least 85 per cent of the time.

The new formula, as well as the higher charges, will be phased in from July in the Central Business District (CBD) and Orchard Road, and then to other roads in due time.

The number of gantries will also go up in phases, from 55 now, to 60 in April, 65 in July and 71 in November.

Mr Lim said from feedback, motorists are willing to pay ERP charges if they can benefit from it.

'The changes will improve the effectiveness of the ERP system, so that each time ERP rates are adjusted, motorists who still choose to drive on these roads would see visible improvement in traffic flows,' said the minister.

On the five new gantries coming up in the CBD to discourage motorists from cutting through the already packed Suntec City, Bugis and Marina Square shopping areas, Mr Lim said speeds on major roads in the city area have fallen by more than 25 per cent.

For example, a motorist crossing the city from Bugis to Chinatown in the evening enjoyed travelling speeds of 25 kph five years ago. Today, the speeds have fallen by almost 30 per cent to 18 kph.

At major cross junctions between North Bridge Road and Bras Basah Road, as well as South Bridge Road and Cross Street, the build-up of traffic has resulted in motorists having to wait for three or more traffic light changes before they are able to cross the junctions.

'We cannot let conditions deteriorate further,' said Mr Lim.

The expected increase in ERP revenue will be about $70 million a year.

http://www.straitstimes.com/Latest%2...ry_201732.html


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Old 31-01-2008, 12:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hiaz...expected liao since when they start the ERP scheme...Guess had to top up the cash hard more often liao and it mean more burn hole on the wallet...

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slow speed = more money
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Old 08-02-2008, 08:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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govt agencies often claim they are not profittable company but the way they are implementing are seem to get more profit than resolving root cause. ERP is just a point of collection $$ afterwhich it will still jam after the gantry. if pple can afford to buy car, they afford to pay ERP also otherwise they are advise to go alternative route. however soon all alternative routes will be covered by ERP also.

too much cars.....public transport is not friendly at all.....
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Old 08-02-2008, 10:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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haha, I think the government can live just by the ERP charges, how many or should I saw, how MUCH cars actually go past that gantry ? All the drivers are like Wealth God to them. = (

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darn. more expenditure again! ARGH

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remember a past case. when ERP has error in charging then LT# want to compensate and try to offer phonecard , then few commuters replied don waste public $$ on such item. lol
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they actually did want to offer phonecard ? for WHAT ?!

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I guess in 5 years down the road, from the west to the east. You will need to pay roughly $20 of ERP charges.. den plus inflation in petrol prices.. i guess you will need to spend ard $40 to travel bah..

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this is one of the many many avenues the government is getting money from.... at the end of the day, i now understand why singapore is one of the richest countries in the world... the government SUCK money out from their own citizens.


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nothing more agreeable the wat you say..haiz...15% in road tax reduction...nth compare to raising ERP charges...

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just don understand.
can see majority is against such move yet the authority is doing nothing.

why can't they just be more open. at least conduct a mass briefing to motorist and highlight the impacts and effects of ERP and of cos hav QnA or sharing session with motorist. at least give us the opportunity to find out the root causes, share ideas and understand our pain and gain.

the govt authority in spore is sitll very practising "dictator" style of ruling which i don think they claim they willing to listen to public.
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its so costly to maintain a car nowadays.... maybe in next few months, dun know if there will abe another announcement for new gantry opening or ERP charges up again!
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not forgetting carpark charges also! *faint*

I have top up my cashcard like once in a week of $100!! wth!
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wah....so much ar...i restrick myself to 20 a week so as to tell myself to siam ERP and costly parking if possible...


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i actualli decide to switch to taxi (if taxi nvr increase in price) but afterwhich , i decide to keep car instead. taxi actually cost more .... (based on my frequent travel behaviour)
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These ERP charges..can really be a pain in the b*%t..but.. I think the authorities are surely taking full advantage of the mentality of the local drivers/vehicle owners here..we might yap and yap for awhile..but in the end..we just keep quiet..and just pay and pay...

What can we do..other than..try our best to change route..or avoid the ERP effected timings daily..if in the future..they decide to turn it on 24hrs a day..then bey sai chao..I believe even the public transport cost are high too..so we should all be New Yorkers..and just Walk..unless..they then decide to put up gantrys on walking pavement as well


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