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Old 31-08-2007, 05:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Japanese anime firms express their support for Odex

SOME were flown in from Japan. Others appeared on video to show their support of their local representative, anime distributor Odex, which has come under flak from fans for its court actions against illegal downloaders.

At a press conference held by Odex yesterday, the message from nine anime copyright holders — including some of Japan's biggest animation studios — was clear: They are prepared to take legal action against the wrongdoers directly, should the Singapore courts reject Odex's bid to do so.

After getting court orders to force Internet service providers (ISPs) SingNet and StarHub to hand over subscribers' data, Odex's crackdown on illegal downloading hit a roadblock last Thursday, when the court rejected a similar application against Pacific Internet (PacNet) on the basis that Odex — as a sub-licensee — was not in a position to file the application. Odex is appealing against the decision.

Remarking that protecting copyright in Singapore "is more difficult than we thought", said international sales and marketing manager Fumiki Yamazaki from Showgate, one of the four Japanese companies in town. He said his firm will not hesitate to "go straight to court" if necessary. Its stance was affirmed by all the other copyright holders present.

The latter were understandably aggrieved, said Odex's director Stephen Sing, as illegal downloading here was rampant.

According to data collated by Silicon Valley-based Internet sleuth firm BayTSP, in the past 10 months, there were 483,310 counts of illegal anime downloading, mainly through peer-to-peer file sharing protocol BitTorrent. This makes Singapore the country with the highest number of illegal downloading counts per capita, at 10.89 per cent — far ahead of second-placed Sweden at 3.70 per cent.

Odex's managing director Peter Go added: "Even in the past month, when there was so much coverage on the case, the count went down by only 17 per cent (compared to July)."

Countering online allegations that anime fans had no choice but to turn to illegal downloads due to the poor quality of their DVDs, Mr Go pointed out that fans in focus groups "could not tell the difference" between Odex's products and those sold in Japan when screened on "a 42-inch plasma TV".

As for complaints about the accuracy of the DVD subtitles, Mr Go said the firm had to abide by censorship requirements. "For example, in Fruits Basket, some of the dialogue had to do with love between two boys, so we changed it to them being best friends. As a result, we got bombarded for having poor subtitles," he said.

According to Mr Go, Odex represents 32 copyright holders and distributes 90 per cent of the anime titles sold here.

In the past two years, its DVD sales have fallen by more than 60 per cent. "We hope to achieve at least an 80-to-90-per-cent reduction in illegal downloading. Whether it's realistic or not, we'll have to see," he said.

In other countries, noted TV Tokyo Corporation's manager Yukio Kawasaki, most culprits stop downloading illegally once they have received a complaint letter from the licensee. He said Japanese animation studios usually leave it to their local representatives to take action against copyright infringers.

Based on exchanges with anime fans here, Mr Sing said Odex "understands they will not stop downloading just because we sent them a warning letter".

Toei Animation Enterprises' manager Ryuji Kochi said he "regretted" the negative publicity Odex's legal action had generated. He reiterated that it "takes many people's work" to create animation.

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Old 31-08-2007, 05:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Maybe its about time for those people that bought the Odex anime DVD/VCD, which the quality sucks to the core, and demo those anime to these anime studio on how odex ruins the quality of the anime.

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Old 02-09-2007, 07:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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well..if those in Japan says that......then I guess I rather choose the importing way or just simply don't watch =X
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Old 02-09-2007, 09:45 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i myself have no complaints against the japanese firms. no doubt they make great anime which we have been keen to watch.

its just that even the mona lisa won't be worth a single look if smeared by the bullshit that's odex. give me a better distributer who has decent subs and dubs and i won't worry to spend my money.
but paying the price of nike and getting nikke quality just sucks


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they are trying to get those pacnet downloaders.. They are hoping that the backing from japan would change the courts' minds...


anyone tried ODEX online anime, see if they have decided to improve their standards??


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no thanks. i never been a fan of odex


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