lordskid218

wats the most economical and safest quality car to own in Singapore?
a car which as economical implies:
1) doesnt drink alot
2) easy to maintain
3) doesnt give problems
4) safe even if in accidents (if u get wat i mean)
5) cheap and low cost and maintenence
6) 4seater
7) good to last
8) "warranty" and easy to find and cheap replacement parts (if necessary)
9) perfect for new and/or experienced drivers
10) good all rounder
11) nice appearance (of least importance and priority)

also,
isit true that Subaru meets most of these criterias? :confused2:

comments,views,etc welcome pls. haha :mellow3:

Cesario

ur economical wise, meant by racing car or normal car??

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shin-kyo

no. subaru drink alot and is not that cheap if u want gd parts. subaru is not easy to maintain.

the things u have mention, my car meet afew of them. lol.

1) doesnt drink alot
my car dont drink alot. around 15km/l

2) easy to maintain
eh. alright lah. everytime servicing cost around $450.

3) doesnt give problems
every car will give some problems. my so far so gd. havnt give any serious problem yet.

4) safe even if in accidents (if u get wat i mean)
once my car bang behind a toyota's vios bumper. his bumper crack and my car is perfectly alright.

5) cheap and low cost and maintenence
same as Q2

6) 4seater
my is 5 seater.

7) good to last
erm. alright lah.

8) "warranty" and easy to find and cheap replacement parts (if necessary)
my parts not really that easy to find. but i manage to find 1 workshop has the parts.

9) perfect for new and/or experienced drivers
very gd for both drivers.

10) good all rounder
yeah not bad. cause has gd FC.

11) nice appearance (of least importance and priority)
the new model look nice. haha.

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Cesario

and wad car u drive then? :biggrin4:

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What this world is filled with, What this world means to me..
And what you are to me..


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shin-kyo

Fiat Punto MK2 :biggrin4:

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lordskid218

fiat? isnt tt a pretty small car? smaller den a nissan sunny or a misubishi gallant rite?

AverageJoe81

MK2 is quite old already rite? Volkswagen Golf came out with MK5 already. My opinion is that Fiat spare parts very hard to get. Besides the main distributor, I think the other workshop can get is Sportivo @ Sing Ming which specialise on Alfa Romeo & Fiat.

lordskid218

so isit smaller than a nissan sunny and/or a mitsubishi gallant?

shin-kyo

not really that old lah.. the MK3 just came out less then 1 yr... not really must go until Sing Ming there.. once my car disc brake wear off, i went to a workshop in jurong and they get me the original disc brake which fit into my car...


yeah. my car is small and a hatch back. in fact most fiat car are hatchback.

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lordskid218

ic. if u hv a family of four can u fit every1 in there comfortably? sounds and looks very small to me.

prince_piggy

fiat cars itself is ex lo..bt drink ar..i draw a punto b4 n the petrol is scary if u kip goin high rpm..maintain ard 20 rpm den quite save oil..fiat cute is cute la bt still prefer other brands.

shin-kyo

ya. my current MK2 can fit 4 well. the new MK3 can fit 5 well.

Fiat car is much more expensive, compared to other car like honda jazz/fit, suzuki swift etc. Fiat car go for safety 1st. it's body is much thicker. personally i have encoutner it, once i bang behind a toyota vios, the car's bumper crack, whereby my car is still perfectly alright. not a single scratch.

as for the petrol, i dont know how high ur rpm go. i always drive 90-100km @19-21 rpm and i always get 15-17km/l. sometimes i will drive 120km @ 25rpm and it still can give me gd fc around 12km/l.

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prince_piggy

i fit 7 pple in a 1.3 punto..haha..

AverageJoe81

[quote=lordskid218]wats the most economical and safest quality car to own in Singapore?
a car which as economical implies:
1) doesnt drink alot
2) easy to maintain
3) doesnt give problems
4) safe even if in accidents (if u get wat i mean)
5) cheap and low cost and maintenence
6) 4seater
7) good to last
8) "warranty" and easy to find and cheap replacement parts (if necessary)
9) perfect for new and/or experienced drivers
10) good all rounder
11) nice appearance (of least importance and priority)


I can see that you're a new driver. Base on your criteria of wanting a sporty drive & also want economy, my opinion is get either get a Honda Fit 1.5 Litre most suitable for you. Honda Fit is very easy on the Fuel Consumption, 16 to 18 km/litre. It's 1.5 Litre VTEC engine provide at least 120 HP, fast enough for SG roads & good enough to squeeze thru the traffic jam. There is also a 1.3 litre variant available if you wish to have better fuel consumption, lower insurance & road tax. But of course the 1.3 litre engine provides less power.

Honda Fit also have full of aftermarket parts to choose from. Loads of Mugen accessories like bodykit, exhaust, etc. There is also a HKS exhaust for Honda Fit. Even if you throw your annual bonus at your workshop for upgrading every year, there are too much accessories to choose from. Replacement original spare parts are also easy to get in our local workshops.

One factor to consider is Honda Fit is only carried by Parallel Importers. Their aftersales service support may not be as good as Kah Motor, the official Honda automobile distributor. Kah Motor carries Honda Jazz, 1.4 litre DSI engine. Honda Fit is a Japanese Domestic Model while Honda Jazz is made in Honda's production plant in Thailand.

Most importantly, before you sign on the dotted line, always find an experienced driver to help you assess the terms & conditions of the contract. Also in terms of financial planning wise, besides the installment & petrol cost, it is advisable to have an extra allowance of $200-$300 per month for the barang barang hidden cost such as parking, summons, servicing etc. Not to forget the most heart wrenching annual insurance renewal & 6 monthly road tax renewal. A 1.3 litre road tax for a new car cost you at least $380 6 monthly excluding radio license. Insurance for drivers below the age of 25 & below 3 years of driving experience can be expensive. You may want to work out a car expenses planning with your friends who are experienced car owners.

You can always ask your insurance agent to quote your insurance for you besides the one quoted from the car dealer. Compare the plans & get best price & the best terms & conditions. You don't have to obligate to the car dealer no matter how they psycho you.

Another important factor to consider is whether you how much can you afford for your 1st down payment? Under the MAS guideline, the maximum loan allowed is up to 90% of the car's selling price only. For example if you downpay 10% for a car which cost $62000, after adding interest of 2.25% the total loan may come up to $85K to $87K with installment of $600 to $680 for a 10 year loan. If you calculate the repayment to depreciation value, it may take you 5 years to break even the repayment value. Selling the car before the break even point requires you to repay the outstanding balance to the finance company.The further away from the break even point, the more you repay. I have a friend who lost his job & owe the finance company $12000 of repayment for selling his car at his 3rd year of his loan.

The commitment for a car can be very heavy. You may wish to discuss the issue with your friends who are experienced car owners.

lordskid218

oh...that bad huh. yea... maintainin a car is expensive in Singapore. but dont ppl save their money and pay it one shot anymore? or is every1 jus plain impatient now?