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Old 10-03-2007, 10:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Dropping a subject? Grades not the right guide

Dropping a subject?
Grades not the right guide
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By Faith Teo

March 10, 2007

GRADES alone should not decide what subject a child should drop.
The reason: We are dealing with human beings and simplistic solutions do not often work.

When I was in secondary school, I got an F9 for maths every year until Sec 4. My school could have told me to drop maths and concentrate on other subjects.

But it did not. It kept faith with me.


I decided in Sec 4 that I should somehow master this subject. It took a lot of effort from my maths teacher and also from my father who grilled me on sums for hours each day.

The result: A1 for maths for O levels.

I am not alone in this.

When NUS undergraduate Andrea Francisco, 19, was in Sec 4, her class was asked to drop Additional Maths.

The all-girls' school student said her maths teacher told the class, in the middle of the year, they were all doing so badly that they should just give up.

But Andrea, now 19 and a university student, refused.

Most of her classmates dropped the subject.

'I kept getting F9 for maths, and the teacher said I should drop it to concentrate on other subjects. She said things like 'I think there's no point for you', but I had already taken maths for 1 1/2 years and didn't want to waste it. So I took tuition and got a C5 for the O levels.'

Andrea even used her maths grade to enter junior college, where she did well enough to enter the NUS.

So if grades are not a clear-cut guide in deciding, what is?

To me, the answer is clear - the student and people who know her best, like family and teachers, should make that decision.

In my case, I was motivated. I had the backing of my dad and the maths teacher. In Andrea's case, she got herself a tuition teacher.

Mrs Poon Yiam Kiau, a mother of two sons aged 17 and 21, says the child's voice should not be drowned out by adults either.

'I think the parents' and school's opinion should only make up 50 per cent of the decision and leave the biggest say to the child. And they have to ask themselves how well they really know the child to judge his abilities.'

Canberra Secondary School principal Tan Keng Joo, however, gave us the educator's perspective.

'We (the school) focus on what is best for the child, and we are in a position to assess how well a child can manage the work load.

'Even the definition of 'doing well' should be negotiable. We discuss it with the child and parents, with the aim of relieving the child's burden.

'You need to look at the overall picture. The child should be well-positioned for the next level of education, be it JC or polytechnic. So, parents should trust the school to think for the students and not the mean subject grade (MSG).'

Mr Tan felt that students should be allowed to try out a variety of subjects in Sec 3, and gauged by the end of the year.

The gauge? Anything above F9, said Mr Tan. 'Borderline failure is still good.'

A secondary school teacher, who cannot be named, said that the only time a child should give up is when he gets single-digit grades.

'The child has to fail and fail badly. Even by the middle of the first term of Sec 4 I think there is hope for improvement even if they're getting 30/100. I would advise them to drop a subject only if it's too wide a margin to overcome. This is based on a year's performance, not just one exam grade.'

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Old 10-03-2007, 11:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think in sec 3 students should be allowed to explore, and they should just focus on subjects they are interested AND best in. For me, I got a C5 for bio last year so i didnt take it this year, i was very weak in bio cuz the notes are really too thick for me to be motivated into studying. I think students should have the self-judgement to see if they are able to cope with the subject. I have seen cases of people (my sch seniors) being determined to not drop the subjects which they are scoring very poor grades in, and in the end suffered when their O's results were pulled down by that subject. If by the end of sec 3 you are not coping well with a particular subject, it is likely that you wouldn't be able to improve enough to score a reasonable grade for O's. But still have to study hard and attempt to put in effort for a weak subject, and if you do not reap anything, it's prolly time to drop it for the benefit of yourself.


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Old 10-03-2007, 11:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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ya sometime it is not good to drop subject bah last time i also through sec 3 and sec 4 pass amath only like 1 or 2 time then come O level get A2 liao rofl

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Old 10-03-2007, 12:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Dropping a subject? Grades not the right guide

I got one digits for my amath but emath always get A wonder why.
but still drop amath
i feel that its a burden so why not drop?
and after i dropped all my other subjects grades improved a lot
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i agree dat the sch should not ask us to drop subj too eari.. me sec sch maths always get F9 or U >.< den form teacher asked me to drop maths but my maths teacher at dat time refused to give up on me ;p shes a veri fierce teacher>.< but heng she did not give out on me i gt B3 for o lvl one of my best result the other subj dat i'm gd in like arts n acc result are not veri gd

tinking back if i dropped maths at dat time my overall result sure veri cham :handsup:

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Emaths can drop one meh?
Its compulsory right?
I thought only can drop amath dnt f&n pure sciences?
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similar to my case sia. i gort F9 for amaths during all e major exam since sec3 till sec4 prelim. my teacher told me i certainly wont get A1 for my amths during olvl one. den i want to prove him wrong, i went to do alot of sums from the tys.
den A1 for amaths. =D
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similar to my case sia. i gort F9 for amaths during all e major exam since sec3 till sec4 prelim. my teacher told me i certainly wont get A1 for my amths during olvl one. den i want to prove him wrong, i went to do alot of sums from the tys.
den A1 for amaths. =D
lol F9 for prelim then A1 for actual exam? thats a god-like jump lol


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i guess when u drop a sub u rly hav more time to study for other subs ya...
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if we really drop a subj, we wun study for other subj oso... cuz we will b thinking lyk " we hav more tym liao, paly 1st den study".. human is born lazi~~~

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and i think dropping a sub will demoralise me. lols
and my teacher always tell us.
olvl is easy.
just do the tys plenty of times den B is confirmed liao.
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yea. quite easy la. provided u worked hard for it. anything, if you put in effort, you will have at a little bit of success in it... well, my physics was F9 grade... cos of that stupid physics teacher =.= during olevel I scored A2. wasn't impressive enough.. but it's a A =D
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