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**RaiNova** · 27-03-2008, 08:14 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by SG80
	The fact that even foreigners are given higher priority than us tells it all. Even they are holding managerial positions outside. I ever worked with an IT manager (not local) who has poor organisational skills and treats his men (locals) like slaves. Until now, i'm still wondering how he became a manager in the first place. Then again, i'm not surprised. Seeing that foreigners are valued more than us, juz because we are "blacklisted" (dropped out of poly due to reasons which they are irrelevant to the polys anyway). They don't care why we drop out. They are only concerned with filling up the remaining vacancies with foreigners when singaporeans do not get a 2nd chance to redeem themselves. You can address to the public but hey, there's nothing we can do about it. Like setting up of integrated resorts, so many ppl oppose against it, but the project is still given the green light. Why? Can attract more tourists, earn more revenue, make more money. Not to mention tax. Same goes to education. Foreigners can earn the polys more money. We simply got no say in these issues. Either we accept the fact and live with it, or we simply migrate. Maybe other countries value us more? Maybe they will give us a 2nd chance? The possibility is there. Anyway, no one has given me the answer yet. NYP can accept me, COP is 18, while RP rejected me, 4 of the 5 courses has a COP of 26. I find it very strange. Maybe I left poly in 1998? Could be. Honestly, I don't believe the crap that the intake is full. Probably seats are reserved for foreigners. New poly mah, needed additional resources to market their PBL based approach. "Due to the overwhelming number of applications received, we regret to inform that your DAE application is unsuccessful." I tink it should be replaced by "Due to the overwhelming number of Foreign Applicants received, we regret to inform that your DAE application is unsuccessful." I don't mind if the seats are given to Sporeans. But sadly, that is not the case. It's only a 2nd chance, no big deal rite? It's not as if we are demanding money from them. The education system. It needs to be revamped. We are already treated like foreigners over here. Anyway, I would like to thank NYP for giving me a 2nd chance and I will prove that NYP has made the right move by selecting me instead of those foreigners who are just taking up additional seats that are rightly belong to us. As for RP, well, what can I say? Nothing much. Ppl are saying that RP is easier to get in coz of its high COP. Not true. If we change our nationalites to non locals, we definitely got higher chance. Much higher chances than ex poly. Just ask RP. A fine example. They won't admit it though. But we know the facts.

Well, in the end it all comes down to the green stuff. Everyone operates with money as the pure basis in their minds. Accepting more foreigners ahead of locals would mean they derive greater amounts of money I guess (foreigners do have to pay higher school fees right?) I wouldn't begrudge a foreigner with exemplary results from taking a place in the polys though, however- I am sure some of them are in purely because they have the cash instead of the academic merits. That's just life, money speaks.

In the case of not being accepted into poly... I can accept that part of it is my fault, perhaps my results should have been better. Perhaps, I shouldn't have withdrawn from my previous course due to lack of interest (but I never wanted the course in the 1st place!) But I also can't help but feel let down by the inadequacies of this education system.

Well, NP's DAE is on the 31st. There's still a tiny bit of hope that a miracle might happen. Meanwhile, good luck for the entire duration of your tenure in NYP. Work hard & get a great diploma!

SG80 · 27-03-2008, 08:15 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by breakurhead
	In my opinion...after they get the diplomas they will most probably leave the country after serving finish their tuition grant

One fact I know is dat in India, education is much cheaper than over here. I don't see the point of Indians coming here to study and leaving after they finished their bond. Not too sure bout China though. Most Indians are already at least degree holders when they come here for employment. But u have a point there. Our education standard is much better than our neighbours. I see parents from Johor sending their kids to school in Woodlands. U can't blame them if they want to leave. Perhaps hey have already plan all these in advance. We can also choose to leave. Problem is, can we get a 2nd chance at poly education in the first place? Otherwise, we'll be leaving empty handed (not a wise idea).

**breakurhead** · 27-03-2008, 08:26 PM

They come get good edu then leave and give nth back....we wan 2nd chance get the dip is like stay here forever liao while they leave for greener pastures...liddat giv priority to them for what?

SG80 · 27-03-2008, 08:35 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by RaiNova
	Well, in the end it all comes down to the green stuff. Everyone operates with money as the pure basis in their minds. Accepting more foreigners ahead of locals would mean they derive greater amounts of money I guess (foreigners do have to pay higher school fees right?) I wouldn't begrudge a foreigner with exemplary results from taking a place in the polys though, however- I am sure some of them are in purely because they have the cash instead of the academic merits. That's just life, money speaks. In the case of not being accepted into poly... I can accept that part of it is my fault, perhaps my results should have been better. Perhaps, I shouldn't have withdrawn from my previous course due to lack of interest (but I never wanted the course in the 1st place!) But I also can't help but feel let down by the inadequacies of this education system. Well, NP's DAE is on the 31st. There's still a tiny bit of hope that a miracle might happen. Meanwhile, good luck for the entire duration of your tenure in NYP. Work hard & get a great diploma!

They have a saying "money makes the world go round." Well, dat is life, if companies can't generate profits, what's the point of setting up one in the first place? I learnt something in life. We have to plan, miracles don't happen. Sometimes a single mistake can ruin our future, such is the case with regards to poly education and course selection. The important thing for me personally is to plan out well, do more research, get more feedback, before embarking on something. Knowledge is power. And patience is a virtue (although I don't enjoy waiting for my DAE posting, I could still remember myself refreshing the page several times a day, lol).

Yup, a 2nd chance for me, and I will make full use of it. Anyway, just out of curiosity, u were saying that u never wanted the course in the first place. They offered the course to u under JAE?

SG80 · 27-03-2008, 08:48 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by breakurhead
	They come get good edu then leave and give nth back....we wan 2nd chance get the dip is like stay here forever liao while they leave for greener pastures...liddat giv priority to them for what?

I'm confused myself. Maybe govt like them? They can give more $$$ to poly? Or maybe they think we are useless, maybe they think we will pull down the school's reputation. I tell u a story. When I was in sec school, in humanities dept, the students always had poor results in literature (compared to history and geography). There were rumours saying dat the school might be dropping literature in the future. Why? It's pulling the grades down and it's affecting the school's rankings. Moral of the story is dat it's all about results. Seeing dat we've dropped out before, polys (or rather the govt?) are rather reluctant to take us in. Even a 26 pointer under JAE has a much better chance than us. Not to mention foreigners with a load of cash in their pockets. Life is cruel. All it take is a single mistake. There's no turning back. Or rather, circumstances don't allow us to turn back. I have made mistakes before. NYP has given me a 2nd chance. I will not repeat the mistake dat I've made 10 yrs back.

**RaiNova** · 27-03-2008, 09:10 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by SG80
	Anyway, just out of curiosity, u were saying that u never wanted the course in the first place. They offered the course to u under JAE?

I filled up all 12 choices with poly courses during JAE 2006. First 9 or so were all business courses.. my L1R4 is 13 points, I have met the COP for most of them, however somehow, I am not sure due to misfortune or what, I winded up getting my last choice - which was Biotechnology. A course which I filled in as the last choice because I really didn't expect to get it (I was so confident & sure I would get at least my first 6 choices!!). so I filled it in more for the sake of completing the list actually.

That was a moment of stupidity, a moment I have never ceased to stop regretting about.

rachelleishot · 27-03-2008, 09:37 PM

THis is damn bullshit i got 22 pts and RP rejected me.

**sushiyun** · 27-03-2008, 10:47 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by phenom
	mine still receiving attention-_-. so u guy think still gt chance?

really don noe how nyp dae work?? iszit muz wait for others to drop out to get into the place or they already set a dae place for dae applicants(eg 20 places for dae applicants)?

**DEADevelyn** · 27-03-2008, 11:06 PM

dae de places is wait till after jae n jae appeal de..if there is still spaces lyk ppl wan go take private or wad then e dae ppl wil get in..or maybe if they increasing e space..

**phenom** · 27-03-2008, 11:43 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by DEADevelyn
	dae de places is wait till after jae n jae appeal de..if there is still spaces lyk ppl wan go take private or wad then e dae ppl wil get in..or maybe if they increasing e space..

maybe dae is after those ite higher nitec result post out ? cos my sis apply jpae and she need to wait till april 15/16 if i nt wrong for the posting

**YTpooh(:** · 27-03-2008, 11:46 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by phenom
	maybe dae is after those ite higher nitec result post out ? cos my sis apply jpae and she need to wait till april 15/16 if i nt wrong for the posting

but she need to wait so long?
by that time, sch's gonna start alr right?

**redundewear** · 28-03-2008, 01:06 AM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by RaiNova
	Yup, I am worrying myself to death over this poly thing.

ya.. i kept refreshing the DAE page sia

haha.. would the result be out tml? * wonders *
it feels hell waiting for this >,<

**redundewear** · 28-03-2008, 01:07 AM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by YTpooh(:
	but she need to wait so long? by that time, sch's gonna start alr right?

yaluh, i tot 14 april start ler ..

**redundewear** · 28-03-2008, 01:19 AM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by SG80
	I drop out of poly, go NS, then take private dip in IT, work in IT line, decided for a career switch, apply for poly full time, and got my Chemical and Pharmaceutical course. Yup, i'm 28 tis yr. I wonder if i were to graduate from NP wif an IT diploma in year 1999 and decided to take another course now, would I be able to do so? Hmm. I tink u r rite on dat $$$ aspect. They needed money, dat's why they give higher priority to foreigners. No idea how much they are paying. I'm sure it's mentioned in the website and I'm sure the amount is a lot. So when an ex poly student question RP, they can simply say "You were already given a chance to study in poly but u did not took full advantage of it". Very innovative rite? If i were to set up a company, i also must tink like dat. Generate more revenue. Make more money. Even at the expense of denying ex poly students a chance to study again. ITE more on technical courses, now they are even more recognised then before (some say their graduates are better than RP's?). Maybe coz of PBL.. lol. Art school deal only with art related courses, but then again, arts got prospect in Spore? Those talented ones all migrate already liao. I went to Lasalle college of the arts school at Mounbatten Rd in 1997 for creativity related courses and I must say I am impressed coz their way of teaching is so much different from conventional polys. And they use Macs, not surprising. Anyway, u also applying for DAE? Got in already? Or u going for art related school?