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Old 10-06-2008, 01:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This is for discussion of 八字 and of any other gua and stuff....

I am not very good at 八字 but can min. see what is the the positive and negative of a person's character, the elements a person is lacking, the position of the palaces whether there is any destruction, his main luck cycle and oso the person's character.

I oso uses some of the stars for purple heaven to plot the 八字.

I uses english astrology to enhance the 八字 and to also pinpoint whether my deduction is correct.

But my main powers are in Tarot.

If you ask simple 八字 questions, i may be able to answer.

If you want complication answers or you want me to comment on your 八字, please make a professional appointment 1 on 1 with me.... i do not comment on a person's 八字 on line and i do not want to do it without first meeting the person.

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Old 10-06-2008, 01:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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oo oo.. wishmaster.. is this the new ba zi forum?
how much u charge for 1 on 1?

im learning ba zi right now.. maybe if i got questions, i post here and ask u?

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Old 10-06-2008, 01:05 AM   #3 (permalink)
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lol... haha... very excited on this new thread...

The basic components in Four Pillars Ba Zi consist of:

* Yin and yang
* 5 elements
* 10 heavenly stems
* 12 earthly branches
* 24 solar periods
* 12 qi phases
* 10 deities
* Some spirits (shen) and killers (sha) aka 'stars'


The most important info needed to do a birthchart reading is the Birth Data. This consists of Birth Year, Month, Day and Time.

As you might have guessed it, the Four Pillars here refers to these 4 pieces of info. Each info is labelled as a pillar thus we have Year pillar, Month pillar, Day pillar and Time pillar.

Each pillar contains a heavenly stem (HS) and an earthly branch (EB) below. Traditionally the chart is written from right to left, therefore a chart for someone born at this moment 4.45pm 12 Oct 2005 will look like this:

Hr Day Mth Yr
HS9 HS6 HS3 HS2
EB9 EB6 EB11 EB10


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lol... haha... very excited on this new thread...

The basic components in Four Pillars Ba Zi consist of:

* Yin and yang
* 5 elements
* 10 heavenly stems
* 12 earthly branches
* 24 solar periods
* 12 qi phases
* 10 deities
* Some spirits (shen) and killers (sha) aka 'stars'


The most important info needed to do a birthchart reading is the Birth Data. This consists of Birth Year, Month, Day and Time.

As you might have guessed it, the Four Pillars here refers to these 4 pieces of info. Each info is labelled as a pillar thus we have Year pillar, Month pillar, Day pillar and Time pillar.

Each pillar contains a heavenly stem (HS) and an earthly branch (EB) below. Traditionally the chart is written from right to left, therefore a chart for someone born at this moment 4.45pm 12 Oct 2005 will look like this:

Hr Day Mth Yr
HS9 HS6 HS3 HS2
EB9 EB6 EB11 EB10
that is very detailed and most importantly is the balance of the five elements, the strength of the ming.

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ahem... why not we start with the intro of bazi 1st... then bit by bit we built it up...


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oo oo.. wishmaster.. is this the new ba zi forum?
how much u charge for 1 on 1?

im learning ba zi right now.. maybe if i got questions, i post here and ask u?
I dun like to do ba zi in detail.... i am very shallow with the bazi.

My strength is in my tarot and for tarot i charge,

Bazi only allows me to understand my clients and their luck cycle better.

If you want a tarot reading look for me....

i dun do ba zi in detail.

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some thing important also.. is the combinations and clashes...

this is to determine the reliability of ur element.. and if ur weak or strong..

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A way to calculate the strenght of DMother than the usual way, i wanna share this method!

First, allocate points for each of the 8 positions in the 4P chart. All positions are allocated 10 points except the month branch with 30 points. Total points for entire chart will be 100 points.

Hour Day Month Year
10 10 10 10
10 10 30 10

Next, you can decide whether to allocate points to enhancing elements or weakening elements. I usually choose enhancing elements. If the total points of the enhancing elements exceeds 50 points, then the DM is strong, else it is weak. If it is between 45 ? 55 points, it can be considered quite balanced, depending on other factors.

For hidden stems under each of the branch pillar, use the following guidelines.

For all Earth branches such as Chen, Si, Chou and Wei, the point strength for their hidden stems are in the order of 6, 3 and 1. Example for Chou, the hidden stem strength under Chou will be Wu( 6 ), Gui( 3 ) and Xin( 1 ).

For all Flower branches such as Zi, Wu, Mao and You, the point strength will 10 each, with the exception of Wu which will be Ding( 8 ) and Ji( 2 ).

For all Horse branches such as Yin, Shen, Si and Hai, the point strength for their hidden stems are in the order of 7, 2 and 1. For Hai, since there are only 2 hidden stems, the point strength will be Ren( 7 ) and Jia (3 ).

For month branch, since the points will be 30, you need to use ratio to allocate the strength of the hidden stems under the month branch accordingly, depending whether they are Earth, Flower or Horse elements.

For example in this chart below, the points allocated will be:

Ji  Wu  Ren  Ren
Wei  Chen Yin  Xu

Stems: 10 10 0 0
Hidden Stems: 6 6 0 6
3 0 2x3 0
0 0 1x3 1

Total enhancing element points: 10+6+3+10+6+6+3+6+1 = 51 and weakening elements will be 49.

51 points is almost balanced, you can technically consider it as a slightly strong chart. As I have said, other factors can be taken into consideration as well.


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Well first we can talk about the day master.....

well the day master consists of the 10 heavenly stems on the day of birth which are as follows.
壬 辛 庚 己 戊 丁 丙 乙 甲

甲 is positive wood refers to people who are like big tree.

乙 is negative wood refers to people who are like grass

丙 is positive fire refers to people who are like the sun

丁 is negative fire refers to people who are like candle flame.

戊 is positve earth refers to people who are like brick wall

己 is negative earth refers to people who are like the fields of padi.

庚 is positive metal refers to people who are like swords.