aM i childish to quit this job? - Singapore's Online Community

**CareCare** · 25-12-2007, 08:24 PM

Hi, i currently have one job.. my qualification gt n level , o level and ite higher nitec.. Now my morning job is clerk in a training centre holding 1.15k, after cpf $934.. is it very low? Working hours is 5 and an half day.. then my work always cannot finish then have to stay back to finish it .. Then stay back no ot money only time off.. then need to claim also need reason and approval..need to claim need reason and approval coz my here is lacking of manpower...
I working in morning 9 to 9 plus, actually should work until 6 .. Ya maybe cant finish our work is our fault.. but no ppl is helping us including the supervisor.. workload is a lot, how we going to finish..
Then those those malay ppl eduation in my company is unitl o level and ite nitez starting pay 1.2k, then me and the hindi gal gt diploma or higer ite starting onli 1.1k, is it fair?
My boss is malay too.. is it he see skin color to give pay de? now i only worry whether i got bonus or not,i had been staying back for two months plus working so hard.. coz i just working for reaching half a year.. one of the malay gal say last time she start work from august, end of the year she gt half month bonus..and now i start from july , if i don have bonus, i c no point carry on working.. am i really too childish and willful to quit if i don have bonus? but i really to work in the company if they are racist.. Is very unfair..

Anyone gt any advise?

**remy79** · 25-12-2007, 09:15 PM

Hi CareCare,

well, number 1 ur job does s**ks alright.
but every jobs s**ks too.

my opinion is that u should stay for the moment.
at least untill a yr with them before leaving.

Reason: 1. looks better on ur resume, (1 yr exprience sounds better then any months)
2. See how the bonus things ends up.
3. Jus maybe after sticking with them for 1 yr they will finally appreciate u and things
turn better? ( jus keep praying)

Those are jus my views. If the beating that you are recieving from them is really harsh then jus leave.
Dun stress untill health got problem yah.

**byakuya** · 25-12-2007, 09:22 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by remy79
	Hi CareCare, well, number 1 ur job does sks alright. but every jobs sks too. my opinion is that u should stay for the moment. at least untill a yr with them before leaving. Reason: 1. looks better on ur resume, (1 yr exprience sounds better then any months) 2. See how the bonus things ends up. 3. Jus maybe after sticking with them for 1 yr they will finally appreciate u and things turn better? ( jus keep praying) Those are jus my views. If the beating that you are recieving from them is really harsh then jus leave. Dun stress untill health got problem yah.

Stay at least for a year like what remy said.

Job market is very good nowadays especially in retail & tourism

Maybe u shld take this time to research which field of job you are really into.

**jessielu** · 26-12-2007, 12:51 PM

If can stay put, but to tahan till at least july 2008 u might find it hard!

Meantime, can source for other opening jobs too

SHIMURE · 26-12-2007, 03:23 PM

Firstly, OT is under the labour law your right to claim under the employment act.

Overtime

All work in excess of the above hours of work is considered as overtime work, and the employee must be paid no less than 1.5 times his/her hourly basic rate of pay. Payment for overtime work must be made within 14 days after the last day of the salary period.

The rate of payment is not less than one and a half times the employee's hourly basic rate of pay.

For a monthly-rated employee. His hourly basic rate of pay is computed as follows:

12 * Monthly Basic Rate of Pay

52 x 44

For a daily-rated employee, his hourly basic rate of pay is computed as follows:

Daily Pay at the Basic Rate

Working Hours Per Day

For a piece-rated employee, his hourly basic rate of pay is computed as follows:

Total Weekly Pay at the Basic Rate of Pay

Total Number of Hours Worked in the Week

Based on the hourly basic rate of pay, the overtime pay for the 3 categories of employees is to be calculated as follows:

Hourly Basic Rate of Pay x 1.5 x Number of Hours of Overtime Worked

Under Part IV of the Employment Act, it is mandatory to make overtime payment to an employee if his basic salary is $1,600 or less a month, or if he is a workman (regardless of his salary level). Generally, a workman is an employee whose work involves manual labour. Some examples of workman are lorry drivers, construction workers, kitchen helpers, machine operators. The minimum rate for overtime pay is 1.5 times the hourly rate of pay. For other categories of employees, overtime pay will depend on the terms stated in their employment contract.

Maximum Hours of Overtime

An employee is permitted to work up to a limit of 72 hours of overtime in a month. However, this limit may be exceeded if the Ministry of Manpower has granted an exemption. (Download the application form for overtime exemption).

For work done on rest days or public holidays it is not included in the 72 hours' limit for overtime. However, if an employee works beyond his normal daily working hours on his rest day or public holiday, the extra hours of work done would be included in the 72 hours' limit for overtime work.

The rate of payment for an employee who works overtime on his rest day and public holiday should be paid at not less than one and a half times his hourly basic rate of pay for the overtime work (as in the case of overtime work on any other day), in addition to his rest day or public holiday pay.

SHIMURE · 26-12-2007, 03:24 PM

Secondly, send more resumes and look out for better job.

Thirdly, need to study more. upgrade yourself.

I am taking my masters to stay ahead.

**BiBi** · 26-12-2007, 03:26 PM

err the pay realli sounds Sucky.
find a job u like ba, or rather an enironment u like to wrk in. gd luck

**Ican** · 26-12-2007, 04:56 PM

Higher income comes with higher education (self education or formal education) there is no way around this.

I won't say its childish for quiting your job but before quitting, please consider where you want to go, how you want to get there. If you have totally no direction, no matter where you go, you can't go very far.

I used to think $$ is the motivation of doing something, but I realize the biggest motivation is personal satisfaction. So find out what you do best, what you love to do and find out how you can make a nice tidy income doing that. Easy? No, but its well worth the effort finding it.

Good luck!

**CareCare** · 26-12-2007, 10:31 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by SHIMURE
	Firstly, OT is under the labour law your right to claim under the employment act. Overtime All work in excess of the above hours of work is considered as overtime work, and the employee must be paid no less than 1.5 times his/her hourly basic rate of pay. Payment for overtime work must be made within 14 days after the last day of the salary period. The rate of payment is not less than one and a half times the employee's hourly basic rate of pay. For a monthly-rated employee. His hourly basic rate of pay is computed as follows: 12 * Monthly Basic Rate of Pay 52 x 44 For a daily-rated employee, his hourly basic rate of pay is computed as follows: Daily Pay at the Basic Rate Working Hours Per Day For a piece-rated employee, his hourly basic rate of pay is computed as follows: Total Weekly Pay at the Basic Rate of Pay Total Number of Hours Worked in the Week Based on the hourly basic rate of pay, the overtime pay for the 3 categories of employees is to be calculated as follows: Hourly Basic Rate of Pay x 1.5 x Number of Hours of Overtime Worked Under Part IV of the Employment Act, it is mandatory to make overtime payment to an employee if his basic salary is $1,600 or less a month, or if he is a workman (regardless of his salary level). Generally, a workman is an employee whose work involves manual labour. Some examples of workman are lorry drivers, construction workers, kitchen helpers, machine operators. The minimum rate for overtime pay is 1.5 times the hourly rate of pay. For other categories of employees, overtime pay will depend on the terms stated in their employment contract. Maximum Hours of Overtime An employee is permitted to work up to a limit of 72 hours of overtime in a month. However, this limit may be exceeded if the Ministry of Manpower has granted an exemption. (Download the application form for overtime exemption). For work done on rest days or public holidays it is not included in the 72 hours' limit for overtime. However, if an employee works beyond his normal daily working hours on his rest day or public holiday, the extra hours of work done would be included in the 72 hours' limit for overtime work. The rate of payment for an employee who works overtime on his rest day and public holiday should be paid at not less than one and a half times his hourly basic rate of pay for the overtime work (as in the case of overtime work on any other day), in addition to his rest day or public holiday pay.

My company is under mom.. so i think no overtime is acceptable or nt, they know very well then other company.. some more contact is stated no overtime pay pay, only time off..maybe they think that work cannot is our problem ma, not they ask us to stay..
but i wan to tell my dear boss, our work is too much to finish and we need to finish by that day.. how?

now getting worse, need to stay and finish our work, also need approval from our supervisor.. wat the fcuk..

**Weiwei** · 26-12-2007, 10:55 PM

wth..racist...

depend..if u in need money..cant live without job..maybe u should tahan a while..

if not, jus find another job....
i believe there much better job vacation than that.. working is lifetime.nd to find a happy job

**TotalNV** · 27-12-2007, 09:27 PM

My advice for you is, find another job while you're still working there.

I'm working in the recruitment line, and boy, is the job market BOOMING now! A lot of companies are increasing their staff's pay in order to keep them! With the economy strengthening now, and the job market at its peak, it's really the best chance for you to change your job.

A lot of companies now operate only 5 days, and judging from what you've mentioned, you are kinda underpaid. The market rate for a fresh school leaver in the admin line is $1,300.

You sound like you're a hardworking person. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have much problem getting a better-paid job.

Having said all these, it's really not easy to go for interviews when you're still working. However, I don't recommend you leave first. Be selective when it comes to job application. Apply only when you're confident of the job, study a little about the company, and you'll make it. Then should you be short-listed, see if you can arrange for the interview to be after office hours. If not, then take time-off from your current job, or just take MC! Hehehe....

**tancyee** · 27-12-2007, 10:13 PM

hi friend, mayb you sld think of finding a better job..

i was like u yrs ago.. thinkin o lvl will be sufficient.. but when i read the papers and realized that in this soceity, no paper qualif kan get u far.. therefore, i start low.. i only took my dip 10yrs aft my Os.. waited another 1yr b4 i took my adv dip..

rite now i wun say its my best job, but i like it so far..

if i can do it, so can you!!

**Leocravensky** · 27-12-2007, 10:48 PM

sounds like a really sucky job.... check out jobsdb.com.sg etc and look out for any good jobs. Have you thought of going into the service industry? It was on the papers that the service industry is having a severe shortage of manpower.